From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jul 1 00:20:30 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA09430 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:20:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 0:19:45 Subject: [htaprs] Need Help on Component value in TH-D7AG To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Mike Penkas" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Had a problem with th7 not recognizing gps input. I got the guts and disassembled my 10 day old radio. As I thought, it was in the GPS input jack. There was a broken what appears to be resistor that goes from the ground sleeve on the connector to ground on the circuit board. The shield was completely disconnected from the radio. Does anyone have a schematic and could tell me what the value of the resistor is supposed to be. I guess it is about .5 ohm. The one that was in there was completely bent up and broken-strange how it passed their QC tests. Mike WA8EBM --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jul 1 05:29:37 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA15959 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:29:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 11:07:31 +0100 From: g7exz Organization: Netscape Online member X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] PocketAPRS/APRSce & UK Maps Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <395DC2E3.4FC07171@netscapeonline.co.uk> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, Any UK Hams out there using either PocketAPRS or APRSce if so where did you get the maps from or is there anyone that has made their own? (How ?) Any pro's & con's ref Palm IIIx vs. CE devices ? I use a Psion 3c 2mb at the moment and have all but given up on it, the cost of progress I suppose :( Any info at all would be most welcome ! 73 de Steve G7EXZ (TH-D7E Mk2) PS. Bob, Have Kenwood started work on the D7's future replacement ? yes I think it's a GREAT Rig but I'd like to be able to trickle charge & use it at the same time, the only other improvement I would like to see is a "feature connector" on the bottom (ala mobile phones) to combine Antenna/Power/Data/GPS/Ext.Speaker this would enable us to "roll our own" accessories for Mobile or Base use (remember that cool Mobile Pwr/Charger for the Yaesu FT51r ?) AND connect to an external antenna without messing around with SMA connectors - yuck Any suggestions from other users perhaps we could pass on our "wish list" to Kenwood ! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jul 1 12:59:08 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA12221 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:59:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Don DeJarnette" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Thanks for MSG Help on D7 (G) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:58:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003301bfe386$016b5f40$421edcd0@pavilion> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Many thanks to all who replied to my problem with the Message Transmit on the D7 (G). I was able to solve the problem (and several others) with a system Reset. 73 de Don KC4YRT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jul 1 13:16:57 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA14993 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:16:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:16:33 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Need DB9 Pinout for RM GPS To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk DB-9 pinout is the same as the pinout on the Garmin GPS 35 PC DB-9 connector. Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jul 2 10:17:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA00898 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:17:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:17:6 Subject: [htaprs] Re: wanted: control programs tm-d700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Jeffrey Brissette" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk If you are talking about the MCP program, You can get it off Kenwoods FTP server (ftp.kenwood.net) you need to go down the software directory instead of the amateur directory. It seems to work ok. On the plus side outside of a few minor things, you can use it to read in the D7 config and use it as a basis for D700 config. It made it much easier put the repeater freq into it, since I didn't have to retype them in. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jul 3 18:40:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA11227 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:40:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:40:15 Subject: [htaprs] New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Check out the new D-700S model on Kenwood's Japan sight---it has built in GPS! Now I know why I couldn't figure out what that extra Molex connector was for (the one in addition to the voice synthesizer module plug). As best I can read Japanese, the optional GPS plug in module lists for $140---smells like a street price of $100--not bad! Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jul 3 19:23:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA17384 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:23:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:21:43 -0700 From: Timothy McGowen Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39612E17.2F8091D5@home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Where do you plug in the antenna? Any time frame for us US types. I will wait and not buy the Rand McNally ! Timothy McGowen Larry Zanella wrote: > > Check out the new D-700S model on Kenwood's Japan sight---it has built in > GPS! Now I know why I couldn't figure out what that extra Molex connector > was for (the one in addition to the voice synthesizer module plug). As best > I can read Japanese, the optional GPS plug in module lists for > $140---smells like a street price of $100--not bad! > > Larry > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: searchk9@home.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jul 3 19:32:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA18243 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:32:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:30:49 -0700 From: Timothy McGowen Organization: @Home Network X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39613039.C3C82B10@home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well after looking at the sight, Congrats on figuring it out. The only thing I could figure was the optional TGP-10 which using the currency calculator I used works out to $366. US! Hope that's not right. Timothy McGowen wrote: > > Where do you plug in the antenna? > > Any time frame for us US types. I will wait and not buy the Rand McNally > ! > > Timothy McGowen > > Larry Zanella wrote: > > > > Check out the new D-700S model on Kenwood's Japan sight---it has built in > > GPS! Now I know why I couldn't figure out what that extra Molex connector > > was for (the one in addition to the voice synthesizer module plug). As best > > I can read Japanese, the optional GPS plug in module lists for > > $140---smells like a street price of $100--not bad! > > > > Larry > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: searchk9@home.com > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: searchk9@home.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jul 3 21:01:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA01239 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:01:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:01:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] GPS passive repeater? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone made a GPS passive repeater to bring GPS signals into a building? Our aluminum shingles keep GPS out of the garage. I'd like to put an antenna on the roof cabled to a radiator inside, to keep the GPSes locked on while the cars are in the garage. Oh, and I'm looking for recommendations for a no-display GPS engine that will run on 12 vdc, accept an external antenna and squirt out NMEA sentences suitable for the D700. I want to stick a D700 in my wife's new 4Runner, and use a combo hockey puck cell/GPS antenna on the roof for those 2 functions. (She's already missing her TM-733 and cell phone, and she's gonna let me drill the roof for the 2 antennas we need. Oh boy!) Chris KD6DSI --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jul 3 21:11:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA03197 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 21:11:12 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Thanks for MSG Help on D7 (G) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <396147C0.15467EC0@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Don DeJarnette wrote: > > Many thanks to all who replied to my problem with the Message Transmit on > the D7 (G). > > I was able to solve the problem (and several others) with a system Reset. > > 73 de Don KC4YRT > Thanks also from me, of course, I didn't know I had the problem with my D7A until you guys started this thread.. A Full Reset and all is fine. Thanks Robbie -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jul 3 22:52:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA13062 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:52:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:51:57 Subject: [htaprs] Re: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Keep in mind that just because it is available in Japan by no means implies that it will also be available in the US! Also, who knows if the 700S requires an entirely new radio (GPS antenna port,etc.). I wouldn't change my buying plans based on their Japanese version. Sure is interseting, though! Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jul 3 23:41:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA20772 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:41:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:41:40 Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS passive repeater? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk The Garmin GPS 35 PC is great! The Garmin supplied DB-9 terminated cable plugs into the Kenwood PG-4W cable for true plug and play connection to the D700 via the PG-4W cable's 2.5mm stereo plug termination. If you go the other route, check with Radiall/Larsen as they have an integrated cellular/GPS antenna all in one. However, don't forget that this will not work with a dual band phone (850 MHz cellular and 1900 MHz PCS). Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 11:28:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA09136 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:28:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: halehome@mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 12:29:57 -0400 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Darrell Hale Subject: [htaprs] GPS passive repeater, No-display GPS List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <2.2.32.20000704162957.00aebd74@mail> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Has anyone made a GPS passive repeater to bring GPS signals into a >building? Our aluminum shingles keep GPS out of the garage. I have seen such used in an office/lab setting, and at a trade show in a hotel conference room setting. An antenna was simply put on the roof, cabled to an amplifier with about 100' of coax, and retransmitted inside through a pattive antenna. I have heard that a direct antenna to antenna connection with an extremely short run (ie: inches) _may_ work, esp with an amplified antenna on the outside and a passive antenna on the inside. I have not set up such a thing though, so I can't be real specific. >Oh, and I'm looking for recommendations for a no-display GPS engine that >will run on 12 vdc, accept an external antenna and squirt out NMEA >sentences suitable for the D700. I like the GPS 35 as well. The GPS engine and antenna are all in a unit about the size of a small mouse case. I ordered the GPS35-HVS model (010-00153-03) which as RS232 level outputs and runs on a wide range of power. Online manuals are available at the Garmin site. Depending on how you want to attach it to the roof, you can simply run screws through the roof into the unit, or buy something like the magnetic mount accessory. Of course that will not help with the cell phone antenna. >I want to stick a D700 in my wife's new >4Runner, and use a combo hockey puck cell/GPS antenna on the roof for >those 2 functions. (She's already missing her TM-733 and cell phone, and >she's gonna let me drill the roof for the 2 antennas we need. Oh boy!) > >Chris KD6DSI Darrell --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 11:41:16 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA10248 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:41:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: halehome@mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 12:42:16 -0400 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Darrell Hale Subject: [htaprs] No-display GPS (2) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <2.2.32.20000704164216.00b06948@mail> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Oh yea, The manual is online at http://www.garmin.com/manuals/spec35.pdf This unit can do alot of stuff that I don't need (like RTCM DGPS support, unit status, and phased data output) but it's there if I ever want to try using it. Pages 8 through 13 show mounting options and the wiring diagram. Don't be distracted with the Evaulation Kit stuff. Unless you are trying to develop a system that requires actively interfacing with the unit, it's unnecessary overkill. Darrell --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 12:32:28 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA19410 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:32:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Walter Dunckel" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: No-display GPS (2) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:32:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004b01bfe5dd$d09322e0$01f7a8c0@borg> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Most of the non-display GPS's I have seen seem to cost more than the cheaper mass manufactured "with display" models. However, the best non display model I have seen is the pharos gps. It is about 2" x 2" and last I heard cost about $125. You will have to step down your cars 12 volt source to 5 volts, but that is easy. http://www.pharosgps.com/product/igps180.pdf Another interesting device is the Handspring Spring Board module from Geodiscovery. This GPS device plugs into a Handspring Palm PDA and provides mapping software as well as the integrated GPS device. It is supposed to retail for about $250 (thats the SpringBoard Geodiscovery GPS module only). Check out http://www.geodiscovery.com/GeoFlyerV2.pdf for more info on this not yet deliverable item, or www.handspring.com . My Handspring 8meg Palm is on its way from Handspring ($249) ...... I can't wait to use it with PocketAPRS : ) Walter www.radiohound.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Hale" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 9:42 AM Subject: [htaprs] No-display GPS (2) > > Oh yea, > > The manual is online at > > http://www.garmin.com/manuals/spec35.pdf > > This unit can do alot of stuff that I don't need (like RTCM DGPS support, > unit status, and phased data output) but it's there if I ever want to try > using it. > > Pages 8 through 13 show mounting options and the wiring diagram. > > Don't be distracted with the Evaulation Kit stuff. Unless you are trying to > develop a system that requires actively interfacing with the unit, it's > unnecessary overkill. > > Darrell --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 12:54:55 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA23323 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:54:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Bob Snyder" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: No-display GPS Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:54:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000f01bfe5e0$e9a80180$0ce391cc@toontown.erial.nj.us> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Darrell Hale wrote: > I like the GPS 35 as well. The GPS engine and antenna are all in a unit > about the size of a small mouse case. I ordered the GPS35-HVS model > (010-00153-03) which as RS232 level outputs and runs on a wide range of > power. Online manuals are available at the Garmin site. Depending on how > you want to attach it to the roof, you can simply run screws through the > roof into the unit, or buy something like the magnetic mount accessory. The docs refer to two serial ports on this device, but the wiring diagrams seem to indicate that it's only useful for hooking up a differential unit to the GPS 35. I don't suppose it can do NMEA on both....? Bob N2KGO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 14:04:10 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA06159 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:04:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: GPS passive repeater? Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:04:44 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here you go, cuz: http://www.navtechgps.com/supply/rerad.asp I wonder if you could just use an active antenna supplied with 5v to the amp and put up a 1/4 wave re-radiator inside. I'll bet that would work. John - KD6SSZ - F650531 - #549 johna@innercite.com QRX > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-12880@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-12880@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Chris Arndt > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 7:01 PM > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Subject: [htaprs] GPS passive repeater? > > > Has anyone made a GPS passive repeater to bring GPS signals into a > building? Our aluminum shingles keep GPS out of the garage. I'd like to > put an antenna on the roof cabled to a radiator inside, to keep the GPSes > locked on while the cars are in the garage. > > Oh, and I'm looking for recommendations for a no-display GPS engine that > will run on 12 vdc, accept an external antenna and squirt out NMEA > sentences suitable for the D700. I want to stick a D700 in my wife's new > 4Runner, and use a combo hockey puck cell/GPS antenna on the roof for > those 2 functions. (She's already missing her TM-733 and cell phone, and > she's gonna let me drill the roof for the 2 antennas we need. Oh boy!) > > Chris KD6DSI > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: johna@innercite.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 14:14:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA07763 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:14:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: 4 Jul 2000 19:13:28 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Garmin Cable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <6C9F3E703502DD4B> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id OAA07763 >> Also, >my III+ has stopped sending NMEA data to my D7, or my D7 no longer >accepts NMEA data from my III+, take your pick. I see from the list >that I am not the only one suffering from this. Has any explanation >for this been discovered as yet? To answer my own question, I found the problem. The plug supploed by Kenwood has bad leads and should not be used. My cable GPS Tx and Rx lines now both work since I replaced the plug. It was simple. I bought a replacement gold plated soldertail plug from Radio Shack, cost less than two bucks. This one opens up and allows you to solder the line leads to internal gold plated soldertails, then seal up the plug. The whole thing works great! I only found out my posit was not going out from my D7 when I checked my Position using the POS button. I would watch my position reading change as I was driving sometimes. A couple of weeks ago I noticed my position was all zeros on the D7 POS display, but waypoint data continued to update on my GPS III+ screen as usual. Many others may be in the same condition with the clunky plugs. I see at least four units regularly coming up on the digi network here in NJ as position JJ.OO.AA. Press that POS button folks and find out if you are beaconing zero posits. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 14:23:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA09140 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:23:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 15:23:51 -0400 From: Eric Cuthbert X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <396239C7.4331912B@sympatico.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk As far as I can tell, 39,800 yen converts to $555.196 cdn, which is close to $100. USD!! I did my conversions from: http://sookenet.com/silverstreak/currencyconverter.html -=73=- Eric - va3ewc Larry Zanella wrote: > > Check out the new D-700S model on Kenwood's Japan sight---it has built in > GPS! Now I know why I couldn't figure out what that extra Molex connector > was for (the one in addition to the voice synthesizer module plug). As best > I can read Japanese, the optional GPS plug in module lists for > $140---smells like a street price of $100--not bad! > > Larry > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: va3ewc@rac.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 16:02:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA23983 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:2:12 Subject: [htaprs] Re: No-display GPS (2) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk In my opinion, I feel that the evaluation kit is well worth it. You get all 4 mounting hardware units (complete with all hardware) which more than pays for the cost of the kit. In addition, you get the software that is necessary to program it. Any change(s) you may want to (eventually)make, such as selecting 9600 baud versus 4800, will require this software. And, since I wasn't sure which hardware mount I wanted to use, this alone paid for the kit, and now I have the programming kit. My 2 cents... Larry Zanella --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 18:53:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA19659 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:53:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: kovar@mail.webnexus.com Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:53:29 -0700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "David C. Kovar" Subject: [htaprs] How to step 12v to 6v for VC-H1? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000704165036.033e7c70@mail.webnexus.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good evening, I want to use my VC-H1 in a mobile setting without burning through AA batteries. Unfortunately, it runs on 6v and everything I can find will convert 12v to 5v, not 6v. Rather annoying. Can anyone point me to a good source for a 12v to 6v converter to use with the VC-H1? Failing that, a good circuit to build to do this? I'd prefer something pre-built, due to my less than wonderful construction skills. Thanks very much. -David --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 21:03:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA07313 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:03:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 21:01:18 -0500 From: "Ron Francois" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: No-display GPS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id VAA07313 The Rand McNalley gps with StreetFinder 2000 works very well, and will take anywhere from 5 to 16 volts. Not weather proof so it's only good for your personal car use on your dash or rear deck. You can get them for $79 at your nearest RandMcNalley store or direct from them. http://www.gpsnuts.com/myGPS/GPS/Hardware%20reviews/RandMcNally/rand_mcnally_gps.htm Ron K0STL >>> "Bob Snyder" 7/4/00 12:54:30 PM >>> Darrell Hale wrote: > I like the GPS 35 as well. The GPS engine and antenna are all in a unit > about the size of a small mouse case. I ordered the GPS35-HVS model > (010-00153-03) which as RS232 level outputs and runs on a wide range of > power. Online manuals are available at the Garmin site. Depending on how > you want to attach it to the roof, you can simply run screws through the > roof into the unit, or buy something like the magnetic mount accessory. The docs refer to two serial ports on this device, but the wiring diagrams seem to indicate that it's only useful for hooking up a differential unit to the GPS 35. I don't suppose it can do NMEA on both....? Bob N2KGO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: ron@talx.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jul 4 22:33:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA21324 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:33:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: No-display GPS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk It looks like my best bet is to either use one of my existing GPSes, probably the Garmin GPS II+, or buy a cheapo new display model. It's counter-intuitive to me that there isn't a no-display model with an external antenna jack that's less expensive than a more capable one, but that ignores market pressure. I'll just stick it in the cubby hole with the D700, wire it into the battery, and forget that it has a display on it. I looked at Garmin 35s, but they don't accept external antennas, and minimizing external penetrations is important in this case. I need 2m/440, cell and GPS. I can do it with 2 holes with 2 combination antennas, cell/GPS, and 2m/440. Thanks to all for their advice. I appreciate it, and it confirms what I was already concluding. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 00:08:30 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA13818 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:08:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: No-display GPS Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:07:12 -0700 x-sender: greg@www.clubnet.net From: Greg Noneman To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <1249348869-75457421@mail.clubnet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Chris, If you're interested in making a small project out of it, I have the perfect solution for you. You can do what I did in my D700 installation. I basically gutted a Rand McNally unit for the GPS engine, installed it in a plastic case about the size of a pack of cigarettes, and put appropriate connectors and switches for power, antenna, and data on the box. Plug in the power, antenna and connect to the D700 and away you go. If you're interested in the details, let me know. Greg WB6ZSU >It looks like my best bet is to either use one of my existing GPSes, >probably the Garmin GPS II+, or buy a cheapo new display model. It's >counter-intuitive to me that there isn't a no-display model with an >external antenna jack that's less expensive than a more capable one, but >that ignores market pressure. I'll just stick it in the cubby hole with >the D700, wire it into the battery, and forget that it has a display on >it. > >I looked at Garmin 35s, but they don't accept external antennas, and >minimizing external penetrations is important in this case. I need 2m/440, >cell and GPS. I can do it with 2 holes with 2 combination antennas, >cell/GPS, and 2m/440. > >Thanks to all for their advice. I appreciate it, and it confirms what I >was already concluding. > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: GREG@CLUBNET.NET >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 07:04:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA04816 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:04:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 07:05:39 -0500 From: Larry Bush Reply-To: w5ncd@bigfoot.com X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: How to step 12v to 6v for VC-H1? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39632493.70B7C471@2fords.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Look at http://www.w5ncd.com. "David C. Kovar" wrote: > Good evening, > > I want to use my VC-H1 in a mobile setting without burning through AA > batteries. Unfortunately, it runs on 6v and everything I can find will > convert 12v to 5v, not 6v. Rather annoying. > > Can anyone point me to a good source for a 12v to 6v converter to use with > the VC-H1? Failing that, a good circuit to build to do this? I'd prefer > something pre-built, due to my less than wonderful construction skills. > > Thanks very much. > > -David > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: w5ncd@bigfoot.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 08:39:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA14884 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:39:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Richard Carter" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:39:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If the GPS unit is inside the radio, it would either need an external antenna, or the chassis would need a clear, unobstructed view of the sky. I see no advantage to the configuration. There may be an advantage in putting a GPS sensor inside a D7, however. Rich Carter - KE1EV -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-14533@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Larry Zanella Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 6:40 PM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! Check out the new D-700S model on Kenwood's Japan sight---it has built in GPS! Now I know why I couldn't figure out what that extra Molex connector was for (the one in addition to the voice synthesizer module plug). As best I can read Japanese, the optional GPS plug in module lists for $140---smells like a street price of $100--not bad! Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rcarter@isi.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 09:52:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA25705 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:52:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 9:52:40 Subject: [htaprs] RE: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk There is less wiring and interfacing hassle. Also, if Kenwood has an integrated antenna, then it would be a snap! For instance, my Mercedes has a factory installed dual band cellular/PCS antenna (850 and 1900 MHz!) plus a GPS antenna, all 3 integrated into a single, multiband antenna system, with one coax run to the front panel 6" TFT display master conntrol system. The MCS includes a preamp, splitter and +5V bias supply 9for the GPS) all integrated. I would think if Kenwood comes out with a GPS inside the radio chassis it would only be logical to come out with an antenna covering 2m/440 and GPS, all in one, with one coax run and one hole/mounting spot on the roof. Keep in mind that what Mercedes includes in my car is at least as complex as what I am talking about here. And, we all know that the Japanese are second to none when a technical challenge is laid down. In my opinion, it will depend on whether we are willing to pay some $bucks for this, or not. Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 10:58:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA06947 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:58:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Walter Dunckel" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] RE: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:51:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001401bfe698$e5ee9960$01f7a8c0@borg> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I still don't see the advantage. You still need to connect an antenna! So whats the advantage of connecting an antenna vs connecting a GPS? For one thing you loose the ability to view all stations in a graphic display (the gps display), as well as the ability to view where the heck you are. The GPS gives me a heck of a lot of info on that little screen. Time, elevation, average speed, estimated destination time, distance from all waypoints, can also have alarms as you near waypoints/other stations, plus a ton of other features. As far as the antennas are concerned, perhaps you would look less like a porcupine, but the gps antenna is fairly unobtrusive. And it sounds like two antennas (one for 2m/440 and one GPS) will be a heck of a lot cheaper than a preamp, splitter, and multiband antenna. However, if I owned a Mercedes I think I would be reluctant to drill a single hole in my roof, so it better come with a 2m/440/GPS/FM/AM/cell/PCS antenna. Just my thoughts Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Zanella" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 9:52 AM Subject: [htaprs] RE: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! > There is less wiring and interfacing hassle. Also, if Kenwood has an > integrated antenna, then it would be a snap! For instance, my Mercedes has > a factory installed dual band cellular/PCS antenna (850 and 1900 MHz!) plus > a GPS antenna, all 3 integrated into a single, multiband antenna system, > with one coax run to the front panel 6" TFT display master conntrol system. > The MCS includes a preamp, splitter and +5V bias supply 9for the GPS) all > integrated. > > I would think if Kenwood comes out with a GPS inside the radio chassis it > would only be logical to come out with an antenna covering 2m/440 and GPS, > all in one, with one coax run and one hole/mounting spot on the roof. Keep > in mind that what Mercedes includes in my car is at least as complex as > what I am talking about here. And, we all know that the Japanese are second > to none when a technical challenge is laid down. In my opinion, it will > depend on whether we are willing to pay some $bucks for this, or not. > > Larry > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: walterd@radiohound.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 12:10:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA21473 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:10:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert Donnell" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:09:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000501bfe6a3$d7ceb850$3001a8c0@kalmus.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-17767@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-17767@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Larry Zanella I would think if Kenwood comes out with a GPS inside the radio chassis it would only be logical to come out with an antenna covering 2m/440 and GPS, all in one, with one coax run and one hole/mounting spot on the roof. Keep in mind that what Mercedes includes in my car is at least as complex as what I am talking about here. And, we all know that the Japanese are second to none when a technical challenge is laid down. In my opinion, it will depend on whether we are willing to pay some $bucks for this, or not. That's potentially true except for one little complication - protecting the GPS preamp from the 50W of 2M RF or the 35W of 440 RF. Excellent harmonic suppression of the transmitters would also be a must, to keep from overloading the front end of the GPS (now sharing the same coax) as 11th harmonics of 2 meters are close if not within the pass band of the GPS. This is one of the things some of us would like to solve for trackers designed for SAR, to essentially be able to put the GPS antenna on top of the 2M antenna, so both might be enclosed in PVC tubing and strapped to searchers' pack frames. It will be interesting to see if someone rises to the challenge. 73, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 13:24:36 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA04881 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:24:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: cuyeda@popd.ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:25:47 -0700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Cliff Uyeda Subject: [htaprs] Re: How to step 12v to 6v for VC-H1? Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000705111956.00ab5770@popd.ix.netcom.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, fortunately for you I have this Kenwood part number in my notes: W01-0921-05. This is a cigarette lighter adapter for the Kenwood CD players requiring 6vdc. This will fit and work for the VC-H1 units. The Kenwood parts distributor should quote: $28.38 + shipping. 73 At 07:05 AM 7/5/00 -0500, Larry Bush wrote: >Look at http://www.w5ncd.com. > >"David C. Kovar" wrote: > > > Good evening, > > > > I want to use my VC-H1 in a mobile setting without burning through AA > > batteries. Unfortunately, it runs on 6v and everything I can find will > > convert 12v to 5v, not 6v. Rather annoying. > > > > Can anyone point me to a good source for a 12v to 6v converter to use with > > the VC-H1? Failing that, a good circuit to build to do this? I'd prefer > > something pre-built, due to my less than wonderful construction skills. > > > > Thanks very much. > > > > -David > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: w5ncd@bigfoot.com > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: CUYEDA@IX.NETCOM.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 13:52:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA10284 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:52:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: cuyeda@popd.ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:54:32 -0700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Kenwood Customer Care Subject: [htaprs] Re: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! Cc: paulem@ix.netcom.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000705114647.00ad0b90@popd.ix.netcom.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To all on the list, Just to set the record straight and not let this rumor get out of hand. Kenwood USA decided not to make the optional GPS available to the general (US) market. There are so many full featured GPS units available and is difficult to compete. Kenwood felt that most US operators would opt for one of the available GPS units rather than to buy a Kenwood GPS. NO New versions of the TM-D700A units will be introduced other than what is available now. Kenwood ********* At 06:40 PM 7/3/00 +0000, you wrote: >Check out the new D-700S model on Kenwood's Japan sight---it has built in >GPS! Now I know why I couldn't figure out what that extra Molex connector >was for (the one in addition to the voice synthesizer module plug). As best >I can read Japanese, the optional GPS plug in module lists for >$140---smells like a street price of $100--not bad! > >Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 14:03:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA10564 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Thomas M. Schaefer" From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] RE: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:04:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004c01bfe6b3$cb846850$6ec6ed89@SC017588> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I received a flyer the other from Antenex. Antenex has come out with an integrated GPS/NMO mount. It has two coax runs coming from it. It allows putting any NMO type antenna along with the GPS. I checked their webpage (www.antenex.com), but I did not see it. They also have an NMO GPS antenna if you already have an NMO that you want to add the GPS. Tom NY4I ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Zanella" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 9:52 AM Subject: [htaprs] RE: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! > There is less wiring and interfacing hassle. Also, if Kenwood has an > integrated antenna, then it would be a snap! For instance, my Mercedes has > a factory installed dual band cellular/PCS antenna (850 and 1900 MHz!) plus > a GPS antenna, all 3 integrated into a single, multiband antenna system, > with one coax run to the front panel 6" TFT display master conntrol system. > The MCS includes a preamp, splitter and +5V bias supply 9for the GPS) all > integrated. > > I would think if Kenwood comes out with a GPS inside the radio chassis it > would only be logical to come out with an antenna covering 2m/440 and GPS, > all in one, with one coax run and one hole/mounting spot on the roof. Keep > in mind that what Mercedes includes in my car is at least as complex as > what I am talking about here. And, we all know that the Japanese are second > to none when a technical challenge is laid down. In my opinion, it will > depend on whether we are willing to pay some $bucks for this, or not. > > Larry > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: toms@inconnect.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 14:19:57 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA13651 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:19:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Peter ZR5DWC" From: "Peter ZR5DWC" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700S site Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:28:10 +0200 Organization: ZR5DWC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01BFE6B7.28179120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <009601bfe6b5$a0b74e60$47211ec4@paul> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01BFE6B7.28179120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please could some one point me in the direction of an English site with = info or pics of the D700S unit. All I can find is a Japanese site with = no pics on the d700s unit. I did note that Japan has some strange models = TM-V708 for one. Strange one that. Many thanks Peter ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01BFE6B7.28179120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please could some one point me in the direction of = an English=20 site with info or pics of the D700S unit. All I can find is a Japanese = site with=20 no pics on the d700s unit. I did note that Japan has some strange models = TM-V708=20 for one. Strange one that.
 
Many thanks
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0071_01BFE6B7.28179120-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 16:08:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA10522 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:08:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:08:25 -0400 From: Randy Allen =?iso-8859-1?Q?KA=D8AZS?= X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3963A3C9.6E15A63B@commkey.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Without getting into the pros and cons of the marketing decision; I think it is GREAT that Kenwood is monitoring this list and is providing feedback! I wish some of the other manufacturers would follow suit (along with the Manual/Service bulletin FTP site, etc.) The others may lurk, but these are the only guys I've seen uncloak. FULL DISCLOSURE STATEMENT: All of my new gear has been of another manufacturer, with some used equipment from Kenwood, at least up until now as I'm getting more and more into APRS.... Kenwood Customer Care wrote: > > To all on the list, > > Just to set the record straight and not let this rumor get out of > hand. -- Randy Allen, KAĜAZS Asst. EC Montgomery CO Ohio OH Dist. 3 ARES Web Page: http://www.cmplus.com/public/hamd3.htm --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 16:20:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA12889 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:20:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: fluidpwr@pop.sprynet.com Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:18:51 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Dave Kaplan Subject: [htaprs] Re: [htaprs]D700 & PharosGPS (was: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!!) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000705161312.00beb5c0@pop.sprynet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk For about the same price I have installed a Pharos GPS to feed my D700. I have it mounted on the passenger side near the "A" post http://www.steffeninc.com/d71.jpg . The D700 is mounted on the floor with the display on the dash http://www.steffeninc.com/d72.jpg . I was very impressed with the Pharos unit. It is about 1-1/2" square. The first time I plugged it in I had a position lock in less than 30 seconds. Don't know how it did that unless they pre-loaded the almanac during manufacturing. My only complaint is that I am unable to read the D700 display in normal sunlight. If it is cloudy, dusk or dark it is great but a normal sunny day....forget it. Dave WB0WNX --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 16:31:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA15038 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:31:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: fluidpwr@pop.sprynet.com Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:28:48 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Dave Kaplan Subject: [htaprs] Slow turnaround at Kenwood East Coast In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000705161903.00be2a70@pop.sprynet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have to admit that I am a bit disappointed with Kenwood on how they handled the upgrade to D7G. When I was at Dayton I was told by a Kenwood person in their booth that I should subscribe to the Kenwood e-mail system at their web page. I was told to do that to be able to get the information of the upgrade. The Kenwood sales guy told me not to send the unit in until the upgrade was announced via e-mail, not to believe what I was seeing on the APRS SIG about the upgrade since Kenwood would release the only official upgrade information. Thank goodness I do subscribe to the APRSSIG! Kenwood has never sent any information (at least that I received and I did confirm that I am on the e-mail list). When I read on the SIG how people were sending their units in for upgrade I chuckled to myself that it would take weeks to get their unit back since the official release was never sent out. Imagine my surprise when people on the SIG starting talking about receiving their units back after only 1-2 day turn time! Well, I figured I should send mine in and get some of this great service, even though there still was no notification via e-mail that the upgrade was officially release. Just so show you no good deal goes unpunished, Kenwood East Coast received my D7A for upgrade on June 21st. When I called today they had not started working on it yet but thought they might get to it today. Wonder what happened to that 2-3 day turnaround. Dave --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 16:31:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA15459 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:31:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Julian M. Frost" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] APRS Aeronautical Mobile In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I had the pleasure of being at the right place at the right time this 4th July, as one of my friends' brother-in-law said "The next thing I need to look into, is APRS for my sailplane". This man had his own reasons for being interested in APRS as he was one of the "fathers" of the GPS satellites having been one of the senior members of the design team for the clocks that go inside them! I was able to show him APRS in action using the Kenwood TH-D7A(G) and the TM-D700A, and now he's all fired up about setting up a tracker box in his 15m Standard Class sailplane. While he is electronically minded, I'm hoping that he'll invite me along to do the radio tests. Ok, Ok, I just want to go up in the sail plane! I admit it! So, anyone out there go aeronautical mobile with an APRS tracker? What equipment do you use? How successful have you been? Did you discover any previously unforseen problems? Got any useful tips? Julian, N3JF --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 16:36:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA15641 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:36:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Lotus-FromDomain: TMK@TMKINET From: "Bill McLarty" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" , TAPR Hot Technology APRS Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:31:06 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=yfY3LzWf1BVmgqYJvqOD1aPDZfVkPmbU8XP9fdnesvdr26R0tltAvzbT" Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <86256913.0076DB5C.00@mail.trustmark.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk --0__=yfY3LzWf1BVmgqYJvqOD1aPDZfVkPmbU8XP9fdnesvdr26R0tltAvzbT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Makes you wonder if Alinco, Yaesu, et. al., are lurking too! Randy Allen KA --0__=yfY3LzWf1BVmgqYJvqOD1aPDZfVkPmbU8XP9fdnesvdr26R0tltAvzbT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =D8AZS on 07/05/2000 04:08:25 PM To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS (bcc: Bill McLarty/CORPSRV/TMK) Subject: [htaprs] Re: New D-700S Model Has Built In GPS!! = --0__=yfY3LzWf1BVmgqYJvqOD1aPDZfVkPmbU8XP9fdnesvdr26R0tltAvzbT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Without getting into the pros and cons of the marketing decision; I think it is GREAT that Kenwood is monitoring this list and is providing feedback! I wish some of the other manufacturers would follow suit (along with the Manual/Service bulletin FTP site, etc.) The others may lurk, but these are the only guys I've seen uncloak. FULL DISCLOSURE STATEMENT: All of my new gear has been of another manufacturer, with some used equipment from Kenwood, at least up until now as I'm getting more and more into APRS.... Kenwood Customer Care wrote: > > To all on the list, > > Just to set the record straight and not let this rumor get out of > hand. -- Randy Allen, KA --0__=yfY3LzWf1BVmgqYJvqOD1aPDZfVkPmbU8XP9fdnesvdr26R0tltAvzbT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =D8AZS Asst. EC Montgomery CO Ohio OH Dist. 3 ARES Web Page: http://www.cmplus.com/public/hamd3.htm --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: km5ge@arrl.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org= = --0__=yfY3LzWf1BVmgqYJvqOD1aPDZfVkPmbU8XP9fdnesvdr26R0tltAvzbT-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 16:52:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA18731 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:52:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:52:24 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS Aeronautical Mobile References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3963AE18.4B76A318@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk "Julian M. Frost" wrote: > > I had the pleasure of being at the right place at the right time this 4th > July, as one of my friends' brother-in-law said "The next thing I need to > look into, is APRS for my sailplane". This man had his own reasons for > being interested in APRS as he was one of the "fathers" of the GPS > satellites having been one of the senior members of the design team for > the clocks that go inside them! > > I was able to show him APRS in action using the Kenwood TH-D7A(G) and the > TM-D700A, and now he's all fired up about setting up a tracker box in his > 15m Standard Class sailplane. While he is electronically minded, I'm > hoping that he'll invite me along to do the radio tests. Ok, Ok, I just > want to go up in the sail plane! I admit it! > > So, anyone out there go aeronautical mobile with an APRS tracker? What > equipment do you use? How successful have you been? Did you discover any > previously unforseen problems? Got any useful tips? > > Julian, N3JF > Hi Julian, I did about the same thing. A friend invited me up one day in a Cessna 172 rented plane and I took the D7A and a Tripmate.. What a blast! When I got home the track was very cool and precisely laid out... I experienced no lockups, had no difficulties beaconing at the 1 minute interval.. I forget what path I used, but around the Chicagoland area I hope I used only WIDE, for at 1500 feet who needs RELAY hi... Robbie -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 18:12:45 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA03598 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:12:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:15:54 -0400 From: John Reply-To: johnk.mchugh@worldnet.att.net X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Vendors and lists References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3963C1AA.791939C1@worldnet.att.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Randy, Kenwood is not the only one, both Yaesu and Icom personnel are part of lists that are for their products and they don't just lurk. 73, John Randy Allen KAĜAZS wrote: > > I think it is GREAT that Kenwood is monitoring this list and is providing > feedback! I wish some of the other manufacturers would follow suit > (along with the Manual/Service bulletin FTP site, etc.) The others may > lurk, but these are the only guys I've seen uncloak. -- John Mc Hugh, KU4GY Coordinator for Amateur Radio National Hurricane Center, W4EHW Miami, Florida Home Page: http://www.fiu.edu/orgs/w4ehw/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jul 5 19:33:31 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA16838 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: 6 Jul 2000 00:32:06 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Garmin cig cable Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <72E92B17A5C24399> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id TAA16838 I am thinking about modifying a Garmin cigarette lighter adapter power cable to branch off to a GPS III plus as well. Rather than cut it up to find out, can anyone tell me if the Tx and Rx wires are in that cable lying unused, or does it just have 2 out of the 4 wires, Power and Ground? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 03:08:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA02059 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 03:07:59 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kc5ejk@mailhost.onramp.net Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 03:10:06 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: Garmin cig cable List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id DAA02059 >I am thinking about modifying a Garmin cigarette lighter adapter power cable to branch off to a GPS III plus as well. Rather than cut it up to find out, can anyone tell me if the Tx and Rx wires are in that cable lying unused, or does it just have 2 out of the 4 wires, Power and Ground? > won't work. You need the power/data cable they also make. Or see project purple for a low cost plug 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 03:24:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA02873 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 03:24:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 03:22:06 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Very odd behaviour In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706031805.00bf3760@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have a couple of systems here exhibiting very odd behaviour. ETE-3 is definitely working well. Except that ETE-5 can't connect to it. ETE-3 also dosen't digi ETE-5's packets. You'd think ETE-3 was deaf, except that it is digiing other packets just fine. ETE-3 and ETE-5 both seem to intermittently respond to ETE-9's packets, yet ETE-5 copies 9 just fine, even when 9's path does not include any digi. What could be causing these systems to ignore each other? I don't think it's an RF or audio problem. (Way too many debugging projects on the fire at the moment.) -- www.SpamWhack.com A pre-emptive strike against spam A tornado is a lady whose skirts you do NOT want to look up! Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 08:18:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA12493 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:18:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:16:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: How to step 12v to 6v for VC-H1? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, David C. Kovar wrote: > I want to use my VC-H1 in a mobile setting without burning through AA > batteries. Unfortunately, it runs on 6v and everything I can find will > convert 12v to 5v, not 6v. Rather annoying. Or use a belt-pack of 4 D cells that will last 10 times longer for only twice the price... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 08:27:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA13822 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:27:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: Mark Phillips To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: How to step 12v to 6v for VC-H1? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:27:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <41A7F1549B5FD211909D0008C7B156E28E5793@USNY-MAIL1> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone looked at the circuit diagram? It strikes me that running off 6v is non standard and that maybe the designers were clever enough to have put a voltage regulator on the power input of the VC-1. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 9:17 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: How to step 12v to 6v for VC-H1? On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, David C. Kovar wrote: > I want to use my VC-H1 in a mobile setting without burning through AA > batteries. Unfortunately, it runs on 6v and everything I can find will > convert 12v to 5v, not 6v. Rather annoying. Or use a belt-pack of 4 D cells that will last 10 times longer for only twice the price... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mark.phillips@royalblue.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 08:29:19 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA14187 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:29:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Don DeJarnette" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] UO-22 with TH-D7 (G) and Whip Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:28:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000d01bfe74e$2128ca90$65146dd8@gsa.state.al.us> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > I thought you might be interested in some observations I have made working > > UO-22 APRS with the D7 (G) and whip antennas. The three whips I have tested > > are the 36 inch (telescopes to 10 inches) Pryme AL-800 (3.2 dB VHF, 5.6 dB > > UHF), the 17 inch Comet SMA-24 (2.15 dB VHF, 5.3 dB UHF) and the 9 3/4 inch > > Comet SMA-3 (1.2 dB VHF, 1.7 dB UHF). I have been able to get into UO-22 > > with all these antennas. I consider "getting into" a full duplex contact > > with a received "My Position" or "My Message". In all cases I have been able > > to make the full duplex contact when the signal strength reaches at least 3 > > bars on the D7 S-Meter. > > > > AL-800: Elevation of 25 degrees up. Compares very favorably with my Arrow in > > the number of contacts. The antenna makes the radio "top heavy" so I grab > > the radio at the SMA connector. A reinforced SMA to BNC adapter is > > recomended. This antenna also works well with all of the voice birds. > > > > SMA-24: Elevation of 45 degrees up. This antenna is one with the "springy" > > whips. You have to be careful when you transmit and receive to hold the > > antenna still. Flexing it degrades the transmit and receive. This antenna > > works well voice mode on SO-35 and UO-14 but is marginal on AO-27. > > > > SMA-3: Elevation of 70 degrees up. I was only able to to make a contact when > > the bird was overhead. The antenna is marginal on voice on SO-35 and UO-14 > > and is rare on AO-27. > > > > If you think this would be of interest, please feel free to re-post. > > > > 73 de Don KC4YRT > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 10:25:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA00489 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:25:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jim Olsen" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: APRS Aeronautical Mobile Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:23:04 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004301bfe75e$143f5460$c800000a@jolsen.ditell.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Funny you should bring this up..... I am actually in the process of installing a TH-D7A on my ultralight aircraft (a powered parachute). The issue at the moment is weight and space. To have both aircraft band and APRS/Ham, I will need two radios. This just plain takes up more space than I would like. I already have a GPS and an intercom system on a ram mount, so I have some of the system completed. Once I get it all working, I will have to take a few pictures and post them on my web site. APRS would provide some GREAT advantages for me in flying. I plan on mounting a weather station on a portable setup. Then wherever I fly, I can get the wind direction and speed EXACTLY. Wind direction is extremely important with PPCs for landing and take off. Of course I will still have a traditional windsock as well. I hope to get this all setup in a month or so. I am currently looking at the two wire wx stations that are only $79. Seems perfect for the task. As far as I know, this may be the first 'permanent' installation on this type of aircraft... Jim Olsen KC7GGQ jolsen@novonyx.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 10:50:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA03846 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:50:13 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Reply-To: gregg.wonderly@pobox.com Subject: [htaprs] Re: RandMcnally GPS and TH-D7AG In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:38:55 -0500. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:41:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Gregg G. Wonderly" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <14142.962898118@skymaster.c2-tech.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone had any luck mating the RM $60.00 GPS with the D7? When I > initially mated mine it worked fb the first time but has not been able to > communicate since. After looking at N6QAB's GPS compatibility site for the > older D7's I can see that the output data that I read from my RM was not > compatible with the older D7's (has 4 digits in the $GPGGA string where the > useable ones have 3). I am not sure if the upgrade to the G model > eliminated this problem. Can't understand why it worked once and never > again. I have been having problems with my new G firmware in the D7. If my GPS is sync'd (I leave it connected to 12V in the car most of the time), and I change the D7 GPS usage from "NOT USED" to "NMEA", before I plug in the GPS, it will never display anything by zeros and blinking dots. If I power cycle the radio, it will start showing the current GPS data when POS is pressed. ----- gregg@c2-tech.com (C2 Technologies Inc) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 15:32:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA01577 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:32:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: rwf@mail.mindspring.com Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:30:53 -0400 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Ralph Fowler Subject: [htaprs] Re: RandMcnally GPS and TH-D7AG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000706162811.00c1ebf0@mail.mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This similar to the problems I have been having in not getting the G model to recognize my GPS III+. I can't believe no one else complains of this! Someone sent me a message to start the GPS BEFORE turning on the radio and it seemed to do the trick- but I believe the radio firmware does have a bug in this regard. gregg@c2-tech.com wrote: >I have been having problems with my new G firmware in the D7. If my GPS is >sync'd (I leave it connected to 12V in the car most of the time), and I >change the D7 GPS usage from "NOT USED" to "NMEA", before I plug in the GPS, >it will never display anything by zeros and blinking dots. If I power cycle >the radio, it will start showing the current GPS data when POS is pressed. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 16:12:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA10366 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:12:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "stridr" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: RandMcnally GPS and TH-D7AG Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:11:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <044f01bfe78e$cfa60700$ec42bc18@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ralph, I don't have the problem you mention. If I've set gps to nmea, it doesn't matter whether I turn on the D7 first, or the GIII+ first. The problem described in the snip below may have to do with plugging in the gps while the d7 is powered up. Manual warns against plugging anything in without powering down. I had strange problems related to that early on with my d7. Bet that when you "power the gps before turning the radio on", you're already plugged in and thus powering up the d7 after the plug is inserted. Howard > >I have been having problems with my new G firmware in the D7. If my GPS is > >sync'd (I leave it connected to 12V in the car most of the time), and I > >change the D7 GPS usage from "NOT USED" to "NMEA", before I plug in the GPS, > >it will never display anything by zeros and blinking dots. If I power cycle > >the radio, it will start showing the current GPS data when POS is pressed. 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Box 3483 Milford, CT 06460-0943 Co-Task Force Leader New England Ride for Kids ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Fowler To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:30 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: RandMcnally GPS and TH-D7AG > This similar to the problems I have been having in not getting the G model > to recognize my GPS III+. > I can't believe no one else complains of this! > Someone sent me a message to start the GPS BEFORE turning on the radio and > it seemed to do the trick- but I believe the radio firmware does have a bug > in this regard. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 18:47:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA16846 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:47:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Don DeJarnette" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] UO-22 with a TH-D7 and Whip Antenna Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:46:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000501bfe7a4$8e6ca1c0$4d254fd8@pavilion> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk For those who asked for the settings of the TH-D7A (G) here they are. Menu Local APRS SO-35 UO-22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-4-2 D or T Band Ignore DCD Ignore DCD 2-1 KC4YRT-2 KC4YRT-3 KC4YRT-3 2-B RELAY,WIDE SUNSAT,APRSAT UOSAT5 2-C Manual Manual Manual 2-E APK002 APK002 APK002 2-J On Off Off 2-M A A:RX B:TX A:TX B:RX 2-N 1200 1200 or 9600 9600 You have to be very agressive in manual beaconing when the signal strength reaches 3 bars on the S-Meter. You should also follow Bob's Web page at: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/astars.html 73 de Don KC4YRT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jul 6 22:24:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA22934 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:24:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Byon Garrabrant" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:23:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Re: RandMcnally GPS and TH-D7AG Priority: normal References: Your message of Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:38:55 -0500. In-reply-to: Message-ID: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <0270c3623030770HAMS3@lvcablemodem.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6 Jul 00, at 10:41, Gregg G. Wonderly wrote: > > Has anyone had any luck mating the RM $60.00 GPS with the D7? Where can I find the RM GPS for $60? I've only seen them for $79. Also, is there a web page with recommendations for inexpensive trackers parts, ie < $150 5W HTs, <$100 GPS, etc? My local club wants to put together about 10 trackers for club functions. Thanks, Byon ________________________________________ Byon Garrabrant N6BG byon@mail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jul 7 07:50:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA14863 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:50:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "David Zobel" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] THD7A Output Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:49:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFE7F0.4D6FC0C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002201bfe811$d5062120$c13dfea9@rochester.rr.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFE7F0.4D6FC0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just joined this sig so if I am resurfacing old questions that have = been previously discussed, please bear with me. Everything I know = about APRS has been gleaned from reading WA1LOUs two books on the = subject.=20 I have noticed that my THD7A does not seem to have much punch for keying = voice repeaters or APRS digis. I've tried the stock antenna and also = have a Comet SMA 503 which may be a tad better. The stock antenna and = radio have been checked by Kenwood with no problems found. However, = doing a very rough comparison with a crude signal strengh meter and = comparing signal reports with other HTs there is a big difference. With = an external antenna coupled through a SMA-BNC things work reasonably = fine. Is this normal for this radio? What are the current recommendations for a GPS? Any recommendations for a mobile installation with the THD7? Does anyone have any neat ideas to integrate APRS and ham radio into a = high school physics class? I'm starting a second career, after 25 years = in engineering. If I can stimulate some interest, I'm all for it. Thanks, Dave WB2UTQ ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFE7F0.4D6FC0C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just joined this sig so if I am = resurfacing old=20 questions that have been previously discussed, please bear with = me. =20 Everything I know about APRS has been gleaned from reading WA1LOUs two = books on=20 the subject.
 
I have noticed that my THD7A does not = seem to have=20 much punch for keying voice repeaters or APRS digis.  I've tried = the stock=20 antenna and also have a Comet SMA 503 which may be a tad better.  = The stock=20 antenna and radio have been checked by Kenwood with no problems = found. =20 However, doing a very rough comparison with a crude signal strengh meter = and=20 comparing signal reports with other HTs there is a big difference.  = With an=20 external antenna coupled through a SMA-BNC things work reasonably = fine.  Is=20 this normal for this radio?
 
What are the current recommendations = for a=20 GPS?
 
Any recommendations for a mobile = installation with=20 the THD7?
 
Does anyone have any neat ideas to = integrate APRS=20 and ham radio into a high school physics class?  I'm starting a = second=20 career, after 25 years in engineering.
If I can stimulate some interest, I'm = all for=20 it.
 
Thanks,
Dave WB2UTQ
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFE7F0.4D6FC0C0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jul 7 17:31:45 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA02259 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:31:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tim Cunningham" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Slow turnaround at Kenwood East Coast Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:28:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002601bfe862$afb46f20$7096aec7@cunninghamt.genrad.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Dave, I called Kenwood East last week before sending my D7A to see how long to expect the repair loop to take. The very nice lady on the phone put me on hold and checked with the technician. Instead of giving me a rough estimate, she told me on Thursday, 29-JUN-00, that the technician was presently working on radio's received from 13-JUN-00. So, that was about 12 working days at the time. On 06-JUL-00, I received an e-mail that they received the unit, gave me a tracking number, and stated that the UPS computer would notify me by e-mail when it ships. With all of that information, I will look for my unit to arrive sometime after 27-JUL-00 giving it about 3 days to ship. They were obviously doing quite a few upgrades when I called a few weeks ago. Having worked in the service industry, it was always difficult to predict how long the cycle would take in repairing or upgrading equipment, because you never knew how fast you would get flooded with work at any given time. They got flooded with D7A's to be upgraded. I am extremely satisfied how up-front and informative they were with me when I called Kenwood East prior to sending my unit. I did not expect the e-mail telling me they received it nor that UPS would notify me by e-mail when it ships. I was impressed! Now I will patiently wait and finish my D700 GPS project with the unit I got from CommSurplus that is working great. More on that later... 73's Tim - N8DEU Huntsville, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: Dave Kaplan To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 4:31 PM Subject: [htaprs] Slow turnaround at Kenwood East Coast >I have to admit that I am a bit disappointed with Kenwood on how they >handled the upgrade to D7G. When I was at Dayton I was told by a Kenwood >person in their booth that I should subscribe to the Kenwood e-mail system >at their web page. I was told to do that to be able to get the information >of the upgrade. The Kenwood sales guy told me not to send the unit in until >the upgrade was announced via e-mail, not to believe what I was seeing on >the APRS SIG about the upgrade since Kenwood would release the only >official upgrade information. > >Thank goodness I do subscribe to the APRSSIG! Kenwood has never sent any >information (at least that I received and I did confirm that I am on the >e-mail list). When I read on the SIG how people were sending their units >in for upgrade I chuckled to myself that it would take weeks to get their >unit back since the official release was never sent out. Imagine my >surprise when people on the SIG starting talking about receiving their >units back after only 1-2 day turn time! Well, I figured I should send >mine in and get some of this great service, even though there still was no >notification via e-mail that the upgrade was officially release. > >Just so show you no good deal goes unpunished, Kenwood East Coast received >my D7A for upgrade on June 21st. When I called today they had not started >working on it yet but thought they might get to it today. Wonder what >happened to that 2-3 day turnaround. > >Dave > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tim_cunningham@mindspring.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jul 7 23:00:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA24244 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:00:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: halehome@mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 00:01:21 -0400 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Darrell Hale Subject: [htaprs] Re: No-display GPS List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <2.2.32.20000708040121.00af08a8@mail> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >> ...the GPS 35 as well. > >The docs refer to two serial ports on this device, but the wiring diagrams >seem to indicate that it's only useful for hooking up a differential unit to >the GPS 35. I don't suppose it can do NMEA on both....? Don't think it will do NMEA on both, but why not just use a splitter cable to send the serial output to two devices? A "dumb" unit like a D7 or D700 does not need to talk to the GPS. Unless you are trying to display other stations on the GPS (which a non-display GPS can't do anyhow) what is the point in trying to send anything to the GPS engine? In a setup where the computer/palmpilot/terminal device may talk to the GPS still should not prevent you from picking up just the GPS output and sending it to a second device. >In my opinion, I feel that the evaluation kit is well worth it. > >You get all 4 mounting hardware units (complete with all hardware) which >more than pays for the cost of the kit. In addition, you get the software >that is necessary to program it. Any change(s) you may want to >(eventually)make, such as selecting 9600 baud versus 4800, will require >this software. And, since I wasn't sure which hardware mount I wanted to >use, this alone paid for the kit, and now I have the programming kit. Did not know that the "various mounting brackets" were a complete set of mounting kits. When I was talking to Garmin about accessories (like mounting kits, software packages, etc) they did not indicate, for whatever reason, that all of the mounting kits were included with the software package. Good to know though. While the software may still be very useful, the unit as shipped from the factory has worked as-is out of the box with both my laptop and KPC3+ based tracker, so having this program is not necessarily critical (or required) to using the unit. Per http://www.qsl.net/n6qab/n6qabgps.htm it seems the GPS 35 may have problems with the Kenwood units. I'll have to run some more tests, as I usually use a Garmin GPSIII with my D7. Darrell --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jul 8 07:42:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA05235 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Robert Duncan" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] New User Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:41:41 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0080_01BFE925.4DA9D220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <008301bfe8d5$adcaf260$f6351ecb@mtx.net.au> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01BFE925.4DA9D220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'Day All I have just gotten into this APRS thing. I have a KPC-3 with version 8 = firmware and a Garmin GPS-35, I run a Toshiba 486 SX 25 laptop. 1st - I believe there is a file that will allow me to run WinAPRS even = though I have windows 3.11 - can someone let me know the name of the = file...??? 2nd - As a beginner can someone give me a list of settings to start with = for either Ui View or APRS, I have not decide which one to run with yet. Cheers from Rob VK5ZIK=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01BFE925.4DA9D220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'Day All
I have just gotten into this APRS = thing. I have a=20 KPC-3 with version 8 firmware and a Garmin GPS-35, I run a Toshiba = 486 SX=20 25 laptop.
 
1st - I believe there is a file that = will allow me=20 to run WinAPRS even though I have windows 3.11 - can someone let me know = the=20 name of the file...???
 
2nd - As a beginner can someone = give me=20 a list of settings to start with for either Ui View or APRS, I = have=20 not decide which one to run with yet.
 
Cheers from Rob
VK5ZIK 
------=_NextPart_000_0080_01BFE925.4DA9D220-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jul 8 13:53:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA01406 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:53:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Don DeJarnette" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: UO-22 with a TH-D7 and Whip Antenna Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:45:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01B